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关于 python 的整数在内存的疑问

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  •   aragakiiyui · 2015-07-17 17:53:50 +08:00 · 2981 次点击
    这是一个创建于 3416 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。
    我装的是32位的python2.7.9的python,然后发现1~256这个范围的数字的内存是共享,比如我:
    a = 1 # id(a) = 31341232
    b = 1 # id(b) = 31341232
    c = 1 # id(c) = 31341232
    他们的id是一样的,

    但是一旦数字超过了256,
    e = 257 #id(e) = 40104988
    f = 257 #id(f) = 40104940
    他们的id是不同的。按理说,id不同才比较复合预期,所以我想问,为什么会出现上述id相同的情况,是不是有什么机制啊?!求解~
    11 条回复    2015-07-18 23:01:07 +08:00
    echo1937
        1
    echo1937  
       2015-07-17 17:59:54 +08:00
    学python的时候没有接触"可变对象""不可变对象""引用计数"这样的概念吗?

    你看的都什么出版社的书啊.
    aragakiiyui
        2
    aragakiiyui  
    OP
       2015-07-17 18:06:33 +08:00
    @echo1937 数字是不可变对象吧,而且引用计数不是针对可变对象么?!
    11
        3
    11  
       2015-07-17 18:07:39 +08:00
    @echo1937 呵呵。
    11
        4
    11  
       2015-07-17 18:07:58 +08:00   ❤️ 1
    @aragakiiyui 回答你的问题:
    https://docs.python.org/2/c-api/int.html#c.PyInt_FromLong

    The current implementation keeps an array of integer objects for all integers between -5 and 256, when you create an int in that range you actually just get back a reference to the existing object. So it should be possible to change the value of 1. I suspect the behaviour of Python in this case is undefined. :-)
    bearzk
        5
    bearzk  
       2015-07-17 18:09:23 +08:00
    https://docs.python.org/2/c-api/int.html
    ```
    PyObject* PyInt_FromLong(long ival)
    Return value: New reference.
    Create a new integer object with a value of ival.

    The current implementation keeps an array of integer objects for all integers between -5 and 256, when you create an int in that range you actually just get back a reference to the existing object. So it should be possible to change the value of 1. I suspect the behaviour of Python in this case is undefined. :-)
    ```

    文档说是-5 ~ 256都是存好的, 可能是为了快吧.
    lzjun
        6
    lzjun  
       2015-07-17 18:09:41 +08:00
    [-5, 256]这些小对象由于使用频率高,python把他们缓存在内存中
    aragakiiyui
        7
    aragakiiyui  
    OP
       2015-07-17 18:21:45 +08:00
    @11 @bearzk @lzjun 理解了~~谢谢
    luobuda
        8
    luobuda  
       2015-07-17 21:03:53 +08:00
    Cpython代码

    #ifndef NSMALLPOSINTS
    #define NSMALLPOSINTS 257
    #endif
    #ifndef NSMALLNEGINTS
    #define NSMALLNEGINTS 5
    #endif
    #if NSMALLNEGINTS + NSMALLPOSINTS > 0
    /* References to small integers are saved in this array so that they
    can be shared.
    The integers that are saved are those in the range
    -NSMALLNEGINTS (inclusive) to NSMALLPOSINTS (not inclusive).
    */
    static PyIntObject *small_ints[NSMALLNEGINTS + NSMALLPOSINTS];
    #endif

    small_ints就是小整数缓存 05~256
    可以修改重新编译
    BUPTGuo
        9
    BUPTGuo  
       2015-07-17 21:09:21 +08:00
    Java也有类似的策略,恩
    mingyun
        10
    mingyun  
       2015-07-18 09:56:31 +08:00
    @lzjun 原来
    aheadlead
        11
    aheadlead  
       2015-07-18 23:01:07 +08:00
    @echo1937 希望还是尽量说一些能解决问题的话…
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